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granholm, tonight in "the war room," avoiding the fiscal cliff, openings by both sides set the stage for the great negotiation. >> this is an opportunity for the president to lead. this is his moment to engage the congress and work towards a solution that can pass. >> jennifer: no problem there, but i think he is probably going to bring the american people into the mix and see what they think. >> obama: i'm not going to ask students seniors, and middle class families to pay down the deficit while people like me aren't asked pay a dime more in taxes. i'm not going to do that. what the american people are looking for is cooperation,
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consensus, and common sense. >> jennifer: that's a fair point, mr. speaker. >> obama: and this was a central question during the election. it was debated over and over again, and on tuesday night we found out that the majority of americans agree with my approach. >> jennifer: in fact we have the empty champagne bottles to prove it. >> obama: so let's get to work. >> jennifer: love it. [♪ theme music ♪] >> obama: so all we need is action from the house, and i have the pen, ready to sign the bill right away. i'm ready to do it. [ applause ] >> jennifer: that's president obama in the east room today urging house republicans to stop being so intrangedent.
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joining us tonight is jake sherman, the congressional core -- coarse upon independent for political. what does it mean for next week? will they get a deal? >> house republicans are saying they are not going to increase rates. they don't have the votes to do so so they are going to go to the white house, but john boehner even said recently this is going to be long talks. is the first round of negotiations after the election but what is important to keep is mind is that john boehner has already back pedalled from where he was in 2011.
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he wasn't even willing to entertain the revenues he is willing to entertain in 2011. if you remember in 2011 when things looked like they were getting done the meetings were secret. >> jennifer: so in fact i want you to listen to a sound bite from house speaker john boehner this morning. >> the members of our majority understand how important it is to avert the fiscal cliff, and that's why i outlined a responsible path forward, paving the way for entitlement reform as well as tax reform with lower rates. >> jennifer: so -- it's very interesting to watch the dance and knowing that boehner has a tea party wing that he has to placate, and knowing he has moved all over the map, people
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have described him, really as being boxed in. >> he is boxed in, because he doesn't have the votes to pass a tax rate increase and the president doesn't seem to have come around to this point yet. and what particularly ishgs the house is when the president says this is what you can do and this is good politics for you. john boehner does not have a majority of those who will sup -- support the rates from going up -- >> jennifer: but the rates are going to go up anyway aren't they? >> that's right. >> jennifer: so he'll have a new congress to deal with, where his hand a weaker if he can allow it to expire and they have gone over the fiscal cliff, but at least they can vote so the
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president is holding all of the cards, isn't he? >> yeah and i asked speaker boehner that today. i said what is your leverage? and he says we kept the majority and ran on no new taxes, but the nuance here is important. and the nuance is john boehner and barack obama, and we have a story posted right now that says this barack obama didn't once mention the word race. he said he wants the wealthy to pay more. so if the president says he wants the wealthy to pay more, that means he could keep the rates the name. john boehner said he want no higher tax rates, so they aren't so far apart, but liberals will not be happy if that's the case. >> jennifer: well unless though if the president is able to orchestrate a way where they would generate just as much
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revenue in removing those deductions and loopholes from the wealthy, as they would from seeing the rates go up, what is the difference? >> i'm not denying that. but letting the top two rates expire brings in about $960 billion over ten years. that's a lot of money. that's almost enough to turn off the automatic spending cuts plus in place. i don't know that putting a cap on deductions or loopholes, i'm not sure that is going to bring in a trillion dollars. i would say the likelihood is not enough. but that's something the congressional budget office wants to take a look at. >> jennifer: give me your best guess about how this place out? what -- what is jake sherman's prediction of how this works?
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>> barack obama needs a fig leaf. he needs a way to say he is going to get more revenue, and john boehner needs a fig leaf too. he can't raise taxes, he needs to say i'm raising revenue, and i'm not raising taxes, they get a deal and do some sort of tax reform in 2013. >> jennifer: very interesting. thank you so much for joining us. and coming up if you want to be president, you have got a looming financial disaster on one plate and now a national security crisis on the other. cia director is sending shock waves through washington but suddenly resigning over an extramarital affair. plus united states now has only one female democratic governor the quantity is embarrassing, the quality on the other hand is not.
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new hampshire's mag give hanson is going to end ter "the war room." and the destruction provided by hurricane sandy provided a climate change overhaul. so now what do we do? (vo) cenk uygur is many things. >>oh really? >>tax cuts don't create jobs. the golden years as the conservatives call them, we had the highest tax rates, and the highest amount of growth, and the highest amount of jobs. those are facts. >>"if you ever raise taxes on the rich, you're going to destroy our economy." not true! all across america people are using lysol in hundreds of unexpected ways to help keep their homes healthy. ben's mom uses it around the bathtub, the last place where she wants to find mold. lysol disinfectant spray
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>> jennifer: what a difference a
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day makes, yesterday we discussed administration turnover, but tonight president obama has a new unexpected high-level post to fill in his second term. the cia director resigned sending colleagues a message saying, quote . . . fred caplin is reporting that the affair with his his biographer. the white house released a statement saying he was outstanding, and thanked him for his service. with us for analysis of what the absence of patras means is
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jeanine. thanks for joining us. we also have news that a woman -- paula broodwell -- this again is nbc reporting, it was under an fbi investigation over accessing his email, whatever that means. so jeanine you have covered him. he was sort of the golden boy of generalsrtnly. he seemed to have a stellar reputation. what kind of bomb shell is this? >> it is huge. he is one of the most important military personnel of your generation. he dealt with everything from the crisis in syria, to crisis
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in israel with drone strikes. he has been the front man on all of these issues. >> jennifer: so let's talk first about the -- the whys and the times of this. this is a friday afternoon, some in the far-right press are suspicious that the timing suggests that there was some fear about him testifying relating to benghazi there is an investigation and hearing scheduled for next week. do you think this has to do with that? >> no. he has handled a lot more difficult issues than benghazi. he would have been able to handle that. i think it's a separate issue that somebody needed to take responsibility for the benghazi thing early, someone from the state department but i don't believe they would have him come out like this with an affair.
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he could have said i'm going to resign because of benghazi. certainly on a friday night you always drop this news in washington on a friday night, bad news like this. >> jennifer: affairs happen all the time. why would he have to resign because of an affair. >> most likely because there is going to be a link. maybe this woman tried to access his emails. it sounds like the '70s espionage, maybe the person is actually working for another government. in this case if he was -- >> jennifer: just to be clear, this is a breach of cia, they go into your personal life -- >> absolutely. >> joy: because you can compromise u.s. intelligence and security. >> absolutely. and this was known before the
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election. i don't think that president obama just learned about this yesterday. so i think -- >> jennifer: that's what he said in his statement, apparently. he said i went over to the white house yesterday and told them -- >> he may have gone over there and gave them the resignation, but if there has been an investigation into this there splay been knowledge before the election, but we don't know for sure. >> jennifer: we don't. all of the foreign policy and defense positions, huge turnover in these critical posts, some of the names being floated as permanent replacement are john brenen undersecretary of defense, the director for national intelligence. for the cia, is it important to get this one picked and in place
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quickly? >> yeah, absolutely. you want to move on from this. the cia will function a very capable organization but you need someone at the-ment leading the direction. he had to be traveling and doing all of these things. i think john brenen would be a good choice. he has been doing a lot of quiet diplomacy abroad especially in the middle east but right now you have the situation with hilary clinton may be leaving, leon pen d -- penetta. >> jennifer: do you think senate confirmation for any of these
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will be very difficult? don't you think that there is some recognition that these positions are going to [ inaudible ] confirmation. >> it's true and if colon powell and john kerry, i'm just throwing them out there -- it's two very capable people leading foreign policy and they wouldn't have any trouble getting confirmed. >> jennifer: yeah for sure. jeanine thank you so much for joining us inside "the war room" up next new hampshire's maggie hassan is the only democrat governor sitting there. she is next right here in "the war room." ♪ sweetest crab for red lobster that we can find. [ male announcer ] hurry in to red lobster's crabfest! the only time of year you can savor 5 succulent crab entrees
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right by those who gave their lives to for this country nearly 70 years ago. >> together, we will build a stronger, more innovative new hampshire. now we have got a lot of work ahead of us to make progress for our state. it will take all of us coming together, all of our ideas, all of our energy but that's always been the new hampshire way. [ cheers and applause ] >> jennifer: well that's new hampshire's governor elect, maggie hassan at her victory speech on tuesday night. and next year she will be the
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nation's only female democratic governor. new hampshire voters made an interesting bit of history this week because they el elected the first, all-women delegation to washington. senator jean chaking, and another senator, and then two other women in the house. tonight i'm actually go pleased to be able to welcome maggie hassan into "the war room." maggie so glad to have you, and congratulations on your wig win. >> thank you so much. it's great to be with you. >> all right. now new hampshire comes across as this macho -- to those outside of new hampshire, this macho live free or die state. and yet you are the only female
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democratic governor. is there a grand plan at work here? >> well there is a long history and tuition of community participation at all levels and so we have had a long tradition of women serving in elected office, and in leadership positions, and in fact from 2008 to 2010 we had the first female imagine yourty legislative office in the united states so it has been some time in coming but it shows that women in leadership you know, through the ranks can end up in national leadership positions too. >> jennifer: absolutely. take a listen to your outgoing speaker, bill o'brien. he's mocking president obama. take a listen. >> this presidency has done us
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one favor. what he has done is shoe horn 50 years of creeping socialism into a three year period and demonstrated the way this country is going. >> jennifer: he may not be the speaker of the house much longer but he is still going to be there, understand. are those the kind of statements you will be facing? >> no. what hand on tuesday in new hampshire is that in addition to continuing to elect a democrat to serve in the corner office we also saw a turnover in your house. we have 400 representatives in our house in new hampshire, and we went from this strong tea party majority, to now a democratic majority after this election, and what the people of new hampshire were really saying is that we have this history of a lot of non-partisan
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problem-solving in our state, and what the voters really did by restoring democratic control to the house, and restoring more balance to the senate so it's now 13-11 republican majority in our senate. they really want us to get back to problem solving, consensus building, and compromise. >> jennifer: i love it. your state also has the benefit of having a very low unemployment rate. so you are doing okay on that score, but the state also cut funds to higher education by 50% last year. how do you restore that? would you consider a sales tax or income tax too make up the difference? >> no i wouldn't. we have as you pointed out, a really strong economy, which we have had for a long time without an income or sales tax. so we have also balanced our
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budget without a sales or income tax, we're going to continue to do that but i did outline plans for restoring funding to the university system because what will move us forward is making sure we have an innovate innovatation-based economy. so we're going to reverse some of the bad decisions that this last legislature made and find a way to move forward. >> jennifer: explain how that works, because having been a governor i know you have got to find the revenue, you also saw more than 50% support for a constitutional amendment to ban the state income tax.
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where do you find the funds? >> we have a unique structure in new hampshire, and we use a number of revenue sources to build our budgets. like all states we are recovering from the 2008 financial crisis and one of the things i have been very clear on is we're not going to restore everything at once, because no matter what kind of revenue structure you have that's where it all starts and one of the things i'm looking at is now that massachusetts is going to go forward with three if not four casinos, we're looking at one high-end highly organized casino near the border. there are also decisions that this legislature made in the last two years, they also cut our cigarette tax. so we could reverse some of
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those bad decisions. they laid off audi fors in our department of revenue, decisions that have cost us tens of millions of dollars in state revenue, and moving forward, we're going to come together for developing strategies for funding the other things we need to do. we have had a number of strategies in place for doing that. >> jennifer: it's so interesting, because governors all want to find ways to find the easiest money to race so casino gambling and syntax if you will and make sure those are all reasonable ways that you can dedicate those funds to your priority. good job on that. maggie i'm so happy for you and new hampshire, and glad to welcome you back inside "the war room." thanks so much for joining us.
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>> thank you for having me. i really appreciated. >> jennifer: you bet. climate change that is an issue that so many people are talking about, especially after hurricane sandy we are fortunate that the incredible bill mckibben is joining us after the break to talk about turninininininininininininininininininininininininininininininini (vo) cenk uygur is many things. >>oh really? >>tax cuts don't create jobs. the golden years as the conservatives call them, we had the highest tax rates, and the highest amount of growth, and the highest amount of jobs. those are facts. >>"if you ever raise taxes on the rich, you're going to destroy our economy." not true! [ forsythe ] we don't just come up here for the view up in alaska. it's the cleanest, clearest water. we find the best sweetest crab for red lobster that
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>> jennifer: new york got wallop by yet another storm yesterday, and hundreds of thousands are still without power, and governor andrew cuomo gave his first estimate on the economic toll. >> the first cost estimate that i have seen has suggested that this storm will cost the region $50 billion in damage and economic loss. the state of new york about $33 billion in imagine and economic loss. that is a staggering number. >> jennifer: in all, sandy's damage could total more than $30 billion. the storm has put the issue of climate change on the political front burner and the voters have finally started to wake up to this pressing reality. a new poll out today from
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rasmussen, conducted a day before the election so after sandy, found that 68% of american voters said that global warming is either a very serious or somewhat serious problem. in 2009 that same poll found that only 47% of americans believed that global warming is a problem. i'm so pleased that joining me now is renowned environmental leader and founder of the grassroots environmental movement, bill mckibben. his new book is called "earth." bill mckibben so glad to welcome you here. >> great pleasure to be with you. >> jennifer: you wrote the best article for real people, i think on the urgency of the moment in rolling stone in july which has got inhigh acclaim. in that article you wrote this . . .
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all right. you seem like a soothe sayer, although science is on your side. what is going on? >> we have had some history before where it looked like there may be action but each time the fossil fuel industrial lived to make sure nothing happened. this may be a little bit different. this was the warmest near in the history of this country.
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we saw a bought so deep that grain prices rose 40%. we watched the arctic melt and then we had sandy, a storm that didn't reck pakistan or bangladesh or someplace in africa, a storm that blew right in on the biggest concentrations of wealth and power on earth. to me the real signal that something changed was last week's article, "it's global warming stupid." i have no doubt that the facile fuel industry will begin to fight as long as they can, but the momentum is beginning to shift. the question is can we make it change fast enough. >> jennifer: we know the extreme weather events will continue to
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accelerate, talk about the urgency -- for people who aren't following this so closely, what exactly should people be aware of? >> well, so far we have raised the temperature of the earth 1 degree, which doesn't sound like much but that's the equivalent of about 100,000 hiroshima bombs going off every day. so unless we do everything we can do to think of that nothing will be 2 defendant's exhibit. and it could be 8, 9, 10 degrees
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degrees. looking at the arctic melt and that means planetary emergency. >> jennifer: that means the oceans do rise and potentially islands going under water. >> a 1-foot increase in the sea level sets you up for events like sandy, when you have a big storm it gets worse, but the same climateologist tell us it will be three, four, five six feet until the century is out. >> jennifer: so we have a knewed president, and a president who has essentially the same configuration in congress we know many of them have been bought and paid for by the fossil fuel industry. >> we'll talk more about the things we will do outside of washington but there are things
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that the president can do the most important would be to finally say no to this keystone pipeline, now we'll have to decide. i mean in that year's delay, mother nature filed her public testimony. >> jennifer: the keystone pipeline -- >> tapping the dirtiest energy on earth. >> jennifer: so they will say you can go multiple times around the earth with these pipelines, what is one more? >> the good news is our canadian allies have stopped the pipeline to the ocean. which means this huge 900,000 barrel a die pipeline that is
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almost enough to negate the president's increased regulation of automobile emissions. >> so the pipeline itself is something that republicans want. if the republicans agreed to 80% renewable portfolio standard or something like that in exchange -- >> a, they are not going to. and b, at this point the compromises we can't be working out between republicans and democrats so much. the negotiation that is underway now is between human beings and physics. since i wrote the first book about this 25 years ago, sometimes i am tempted to say, if only you would have listened to me back then. 25 years ago we had more options. now we have got to keep that carbon in the ground.
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>> jennifer: so unless something dramatic happens, if it's not going to happen in congress there may be another way, and we're going to talk about that in just one minute. so you are on a 20-city bus tour, and there is a way of making this pressure happen so bill mckibben you stay right where you are. after the break big problems call for big solutions, we'll
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>> jennifer: you are back inside "the war room," where i'm joined by environmental bill mckibben, scholar and resident at middleberry college, founder of the environmental movement give us some hope. >> there's a lot of hope because there is a movement
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finally happening. for 20 years we just sent people to capitol hill and hoped that our congressmen would listen to them. that didn't work because too much of capitol hill is owned by the fossil fuel industry. then we launched this tour of soldout concert tours across the country, where we're doing evening presentations to spark a movement. we're calling for divestment in colleges and universities and churches who have their stock in fossil fuel companies, and the first night in seattle, the major of seattle stood up and said i'm talking with our treasurer, about how we are going to take our city funds out of fossil fuels. it's going to be a hard fight, but we're going to build a movement that does to the fossil
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fuel industry what people did to the tobacco industry years ago. >> jennifer: so what is the reaction of the fossil fuel industry? have they said anything yet? >> they are at the moment, i think they think this is just a bee sting on the side of an elephant. but they are paying a little at attention, because they were certain they were going to get their keystone pipeline built until 350 of us went to jail. we're coming after that. i don't know if we can win, because they are very powerful and because the time is short, but their advantage in money isn't always going to be enough. look at how much money they spent in the last election and with what little effect. they thought that keystone pipeline thing they could wrap around the neck of one senator after another. they spent millions on ads in
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florida trying to brag down bill nelson and it didn't move the needle a bit. americans know they want clean energy, and the reason they don't get it is because the exxons and chevrons of the world are addicted to the profits that flow from dirty energy. >> the apartheid movement they knew the separation of people was wrong. >> this requires that moral persuasion. >> i think you are absolutely right. one of the videos is from desmond tootoo and he is an old man now, but it is a very moving video, where he says this is the next great moral issue of our time, and we need to put pressure on in the same way. works in 191 countries around the world, so we have
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those images in spades from every corner of the earth, people who have been flooded from their homes, crops have withered and crops are disappearing under water. >> jennifer: america has to lead, because there needs to be a global consensus, because whatever we do obviously people look at that. it must be a consensus among countries, there is a united nations conference at the end of this month. you have expressed serious disappointment with the lack of movement on the global level. how do you get the nations -- >> so we're -- the un has been almost as in effectual as
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congress in this issue. we're in the spring convening a meeting, calling it global power shift with six or seven young people from every country or north -- well we don't work in north korea, but every place well, coming together with an agenda that will tell the countries that you are not getting it done. you are repeating the same empty phrases over and over again. sometime for work or get out of the way. >> jennifer: what is the message those young people are going to take. you keep saying it is about the math. what are the simplest numbers that we have got to remember to help persuade. >> the most important thing to understand, and it's new information in the last year or two from financial analysts is
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the fossil fuel industry has in its reserves, five times as much carbon as the most conservative governments in the world think question put into the atmosphere. >> and what if they use it? what happens to us? >> the temperature goes up 7, 8, 9 degrees. we break the planet. that's why these companies now -- before we knew about climate change they were just normal companies, and they are now rogue companies, and we have to start treating them that way. exxon spends a hundred million dollars a day looking for new fossil fuel that would put a lot of solar panels on a lot of roofs. >> jennifer: and just for the people in the midwest where sometimes global warming isn't such a bad thing when you go through cold winters -- >> until you see a summer like
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this one when no one can grow a thing -- >> jennifer: what is going to happen to me as a person -- >> well one thing you are going to do this year is pay a lot more for food than you would have, but the real problem is what is going to happen 10 or 20 years down the road. we keep having these storms back-to-back-to-back. in vermont before sandy was irene, and we took it on the chin -- >> jennifer: but that's just the tip of the iceberg. >> early days of this with a lot of momentum which is why we have to intervene right now. the thing we do in the next few year's we'll figure out what happens. >> jennifer: you're in this 20-city tour. >> we'll move to the east and
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then end up after thanks giving in the midwest. >> jennifer: all right for those of you who want more information go to bill mckibben i applaud you for continuing this trek that you are on. i hope you are able to penetrate the consciousness for people who do not see this as a problem. thank you for your voice and work on this problem. >> governor thank you for all of your good work on these issues. >> jennifer: the 2012 election is pretty (vo) cenk uygur is many things. >>oh really? >>tax cuts don't create jobs. the golden years as the conservatives call them, we had the highest tax rates, and the highest amount of growth, and the highest amount of jobs. those are facts.
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>>"if you ever raise taxes on the rich, you're going to destroy our economy." not true!
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jennifer speaks truth to power. >>the bottom line is we need an amendment. >>now it's your turn. connect with "the war room" jennifer granholm. make your voice heard. >> jennifer: in our visit to crazytown tonight, we would like to offer romney supporters a chance to get out of crazytown, so these driving directions come courtesy of the local traffic reporter in tulsa oklahoma. take a look.
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>> i know a lot of people said if their candidate lost the election, they would be moving to canada. so let me give you the quickest and most direct ruth. leave out of tulsa here take 75 northbound. when you get into omaha, because for that junction for interstate 29, because you take 29 out of nebraska here that will get you up through south dakota and north carolina and literally i-29 will go to the canada border. they are laughing at me. this is serious stuff. >> jennifer: seriously. please don't go. we need a fully populated crazy town. it keeps the rest of us sane. it has been a long week. a great week for democrats and a bad one for republicans. and nobody better than our own
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brett ehrlich to put the cherry on top. so shhhh, brett's talking now well election week has come and gone and it's time for a joke dump. ♪ >> this is joke dump. before the election a hopeful candidate romney commissioned a design firm to design a president-elect romney website, it leaked online and you can actually visit it if you want to feel really really sad for him. he really thought it was going to happen. [ wah wah ] >> when all was said and done sheldon adleson flushed $100 million down the toilet. you think that is a lot, you should see what he spent on the toilet. tim kaine may have taken the top spot in the virginia senate race, but third place went to hank the cat. when asked for a statement, hank said politics has really gone to
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the dogs. hank is starting a comedy career. and then a voting machine changing obama votes into romney votes. which is not surprising considering both romney and the machine were assembled by the same engineer. and then chris christie was most critical of romney because he didn't hand out actual con senses during the speech. sorry chris. i'm done talking now. ♪ >> jennifer: someone is always in our war room check us out on line at, it's also where you can link up to our twitter and facebook page check out our exclusive web extras and to you all, have a great night and fantastic weekend. we'll see you here on monday. ♪
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